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Microsoft Access Developers Guide to SQL Server
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Daryll Combs
2009-10-22 20:01:01 UTC
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Hello,

I am approaching my first project involving the migration of an Access-2003
application to a mixed Access front-end/SQL Server back-end environment.

I have been doing alot of online research on this topic and have come across
a book written by Mary Chipman titled as above that seems to have garnered
rave reviews for its content and methodology.

Only problem I see in purchasing a copy is that it is from Dec-2000, and
does not seem to have any revised editions thereafter for later versions of
Access and SQL Server.

Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this would still be a useful book
to purchase for someone just beginning to work on this class of project for
the very first time, even though the targeted product versions are Access
2003/2007 and SQL Server 2005/2008?

Thanks,
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W. Daryll Combs
Jennica Data Systems Inc.
Cincinnati OH
GBA
2009-10-22 20:53:01 UTC
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While I do not have that book - - I've been thru what you are going thru - -
and would say that it is probably worthwhile; if you continue to google
around you will also find other online articles on this same topic that are
helpful too.

In my mind there are two issues; first the conceptual difference - being
that with Acccess all the queries are in the front end - vs sqlserver where
all the queries are in the back end - - - with the exception of the pass-thru
query; which you will want to get to know.

The fact that it was written well before the current sqlserver08 doesn't
change the overall architectural/conceptual re-referencing you need. Which
bring up the second issue:

You need to work with an sqlserver person. If this is going to be you - -
then look at all the product's certification/education stuff - - there is
alot of it. And in this you will learn all the up to date info on this
product. Knowing sql - in terms of writing queries - isn't a biggie - - one
can get a handle on the syntax variations very readily. But managing
sqlserver as a product - - that's a big deal. It is completely different
than Access and an entirely different animal totally.

Hope this helps a little....
Post by Daryll Combs
Hello,
I am approaching my first project involving the migration of an Access-2003
application to a mixed Access front-end/SQL Server back-end environment.
I have been doing alot of online research on this topic and have come across
a book written by Mary Chipman titled as above that seems to have garnered
rave reviews for its content and methodology.
Only problem I see in purchasing a copy is that it is from Dec-2000, and
does not seem to have any revised editions thereafter for later versions of
Access and SQL Server.
Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this would still be a useful book
to purchase for someone just beginning to work on this class of project for
the very first time, even though the targeted product versions are Access
2003/2007 and SQL Server 2005/2008?
Thanks,
--
W. Daryll Combs
Jennica Data Systems Inc.
Cincinnati OH
Jeff Boyce
2009-10-22 23:55:27 UTC
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Daryll

I've used that book ... frequently ... and still do. I even paid full
freight when I got it.

The concepts are valid, regardless of the specifics.

Regards

Jeff Boyce
Microsoft Access MVP
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Post by Daryll Combs
Hello,
I am approaching my first project involving the migration of an Access-2003
application to a mixed Access front-end/SQL Server back-end environment.
I have been doing alot of online research on this topic and have come across
a book written by Mary Chipman titled as above that seems to have garnered
rave reviews for its content and methodology.
Only problem I see in purchasing a copy is that it is from Dec-2000, and
does not seem to have any revised editions thereafter for later versions of
Access and SQL Server.
Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this would still be a useful book
to purchase for someone just beginning to work on this class of project for
the very first time, even though the targeted product versions are Access
2003/2007 and SQL Server 2005/2008?
Thanks,
--
W. Daryll Combs
Jennica Data Systems Inc.
Cincinnati OH
Tony Toews [MVP]
2009-10-23 03:14:31 UTC
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Post by Daryll Combs
I have been doing alot of online research on this topic and have come across
a book written by Mary Chipman titled as above that seems to have garnered
rave reviews for its content and methodology.
Only problem I see in purchasing a copy is that it is from Dec-2000, and
does not seem to have any revised editions thereafter for later versions of
Access and SQL Server.
Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this would still be a useful book
to purchase for someone just beginning to work on this class of project for
the very first time, even though the targeted product versions are Access
2003/2007 and SQL Server 2005/2008?
Still very relevant. The basic concepts have not changed.

Also see my Random Thoughts on SQL Server Upsizing from Microsoft
Access Tips page at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/access/sqlserverupsizing.htm

There is a tool from the SQL Server group.
SQL Server Migration Assistant for Access (SSMA Access)
http://www.microsoft.com/Sqlserver/2005/en/us/migration-access.aspx

Tony
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Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
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updated see http://www.autofeupdater.com/
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John W. Vinson
2009-10-23 05:46:42 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:01:01 -0700, Daryll Combs
Post by Daryll Combs
Hello,
I am approaching my first project involving the migration of an Access-2003
application to a mixed Access front-end/SQL Server back-end environment.
I have been doing alot of online research on this topic and have come across
a book written by Mary Chipman titled as above that seems to have garnered
rave reviews for its content and methodology.
Only problem I see in purchasing a copy is that it is from Dec-2000, and
does not seem to have any revised editions thereafter for later versions of
Access and SQL Server.
Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this would still be a useful book
to purchase for someone just beginning to work on this class of project for
the very first time, even though the targeted product versions are Access
2003/2007 and SQL Server 2005/2008?
Thanks,
Chipman is a terrific writer, and her books (that and the supurb _Designing
Relational Database Systems_) are still very relevant and useful.
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John W. Vinson [MVP]
David W. Fenton
2009-10-24 00:45:55 UTC
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Post by Daryll Combs
Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this would still be a
useful book to purchase for someone just beginning to work on this
class of project for the very first time, even though the targeted
product versions are Access 2003/2007 and SQL Server 2005/2008?
It's a really excellent book. I have 6 books on my active Access
bookshelf, the two volumes each of the A97 and A2000 ADH, the Jet
Database Engine Programmers Guide, and Mary Chipman's book. The
first time I did a SQL Server upsizing, it saved me literally hours
of work and I refer to it frequently.
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David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
Armen Stein
2009-10-24 22:12:54 UTC
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:01:01 -0700, Daryll Combs
Post by Daryll Combs
Hello,
I am approaching my first project involving the migration of an Access-2003
application to a mixed Access front-end/SQL Server back-end environment.
I have been doing alot of online research on this topic and have come across
a book written by Mary Chipman titled as above that seems to have garnered
rave reviews for its content and methodology.
Only problem I see in purchasing a copy is that it is from Dec-2000, and
does not seem to have any revised editions thereafter for later versions of
Access and SQL Server.
Does anyone have an opinion as to whether this would still be a useful book
to purchase for someone just beginning to work on this class of project for
the very first time, even though the targeted product versions are Access
2003/2007 and SQL Server 2005/2008?
Hi Daryll,

In addition to all the other good comments you've received, you might
take a look at this. I've written a PowerPoint presentation on
techniques for using Access as a client-server front-end to SQL Server
databases. It's called "Best of Both Worlds" at
www.JStreetTech.com/Downloads. It includes some thoughts on when to
use SQL Server, performance and security considerations, concurrency
approaches, and techniques to help everything run smoothly.

Armen Stein
Microsoft Access MVP
www.JStreetTech.com

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